[even if she has weird feelings about it. she wants him to convince her. she wants to be wrong, and that it isn't actually so unfair that you can love someone as much as he loves her and for that to mean nothing.]
And - we shouldn't have tried to put Cinderella in the book. And we shouldn't have left Mira there. And I guess we all kind of freaked out that we were wrong about them that we never stopped and considered what specifically they were wrong about. Snow White knew a lot less about all of it than we did, so maybe they just got it wrong at some point.
[ it really is a bit selfishly tied to that desire to try talking to elody again. maybe do it right this time. you almost never get the chance to get a do-over on a conversation you know you fucked up, that could actually change things. maybe that's wrong of him to want that so badly, instead of just continuing to own up to mistakes he's already made. ]
I don't know that we have the whole picture either. And we'll need to do better at convincing them.
[well, it doesn't have to be a do-over in that sense. it isn't some dishonest impulse to try and pick the right dialogue options this time. it's more that he's changed a lot, and wouldn't have done it the same way anymore.]
We don't, but we at least know that you can't just fight them. It's going to have to be something else. And I think we know that it's possible.
but he does feel slightly guilty asking her to trust him, after everything. it's sort of the problem, right, that he hadn't earned any trust of hers and maybe needed to suffer the consequences of that. ]
[no but rosamund at least has the benefit of having spoken to snow white directly and not having an ulterior motive...]
I'm patting you...pat pat.
[it's really okay. she doesn't intend to demand elody trust him.]
I get it. Or - the truth is, I really don't. I don't get why you making a mistake is so bad that she'd trust them more than us.
But I get that she's not just going to hear me talking you up and change her mind about everything from that. But also maybe she doesn't need to change her mind so much as remember that you're not a bad guy and wouldn't lie to her about a bunch of things for no reason.
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[even if she has weird feelings about it. she wants him to convince her. she wants to be wrong, and that it isn't actually so unfair that you can love someone as much as he loves her and for that to mean nothing.]
And - we shouldn't have tried to put Cinderella in the book. And we shouldn't have left Mira there. And I guess we all kind of freaked out that we were wrong about them that we never stopped and considered what specifically they were wrong about. Snow White knew a lot less about all of it than we did, so maybe they just got it wrong at some point.
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I don't know that we have the whole picture either. And we'll need to do better at convincing them.
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We don't, but we at least know that you can't just fight them. It's going to have to be something else. And I think we know that it's possible.
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[ this isn't a great plan, considering both of their horrible charisma scores, but maybe together? ]
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I'll help you. But what are we trying to convince her of? To trust us? To trust you? To trust that we have a better plan?
[those are sort of three separate things.]
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[ He'd like her to trust them, and him specifically, but he knows that's an uphill battle. ]
Probably the third one is the best way.
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If it's you, though...
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but he does feel slightly guilty asking her to trust him, after everything. it's sort of the problem, right, that he hadn't earned any trust of hers and maybe needed to suffer the consequences of that. ]
We can try.
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I'm patting you...pat pat.
[it's really okay. she doesn't intend to demand elody trust him.]
I get it. Or - the truth is, I really don't. I don't get why you making a mistake is so bad that she'd trust them more than us.
But I get that she's not just going to hear me talking you up and change her mind about everything from that. But also maybe she doesn't need to change her mind so much as remember that you're not a bad guy and wouldn't lie to her about a bunch of things for no reason.